Podcast host T.J. Vari asks Thomas Murray, Director of Innovation for Future Ready Schools®, a project of All4Ed, in Washington, D.C., about what to do with 30 seconds. Every 30 seconds matter but what do we do with it when we’re connecting with others? Murray gives tips about seeing people as a person first rather than their role in the organization. 

“If we’re not finding the joy in the work, we need to do something to change that,” he says.

One thing Murray does to reset his thinking is to spend time in the classroom — not to observe teachers, but to interact with kids. It’s what puts him in the right frame of mind.

Don’t miss what Murray's mentor told him to do with three sticky notes on his desk. Every leader can benefit from this specific strategy. 

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